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By: Oreo

Mon, 12/11/2017 - 22:46

Hi Writeedit,

Wanted to get your thoughts on Phase 2 SBIR. Our Phase 2 did not get discussed. The science was pretty much the same from Phase 1, which got an impact score of 21. We met all our phase 1 goals and had great data to back it up. So this came as a surprise.

I noticed that our study group has changed between those 15 months between Phase 1 and Phase 2. Is it common for something like this to happen? We’re looking to resubmit. Your thoughts would be much appreciated.

Happy holidays to the group!

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By: SJ

Mon, 12/11/2017 - 16:25

Thanks.

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By: writedit

Mon, 12/11/2017 - 12:55

You could ask simply if you should submit a new application (based on your RFA application) for the February receipt date, so you have back-up insurance if the 13th percentile application is not funded (though I would certainly hope it would be, especially for AD). If you would not be ready to submit in February, though, then there is no reason to ask of course. You can watch to see what is happening with the federal budget (CR now extended to Dec 23) – when the budget is signed into law, then it will take another 4-6 weeks before the individual ICs know their final appropriations and can begin considering paylines (so your PO won’t know immediately after the budget is passed, though he’ll have an idea of funding levels).

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By: SJ

Mon, 12/11/2017 - 11:23

Hi, Applied to NIA on a R01 based on RFA mechanism and received a 13% percentile score. I sent to my PO two emails asking for chance of being funded with this score, one in Nov 29 and one in Dec 7, but still did not hear back from him. In our earlier communications, my PO indicated the NIA FY18 payline won’t be available until the end of Dec or early of January. What should I do to follow up? I don’t want to bother PO with too many emails. But really want to know whether we have chance to be funded with this score or whether we should prepare for resubmission. My PO did indicate that our proposal is 100% coded as AD research. Thanks a lot.

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By: writedit

Sat, 12/09/2017 - 13:56

Yes – that means science will be as important as score (ie, IC will pick projects of most interest to them over a range of scores).

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By: PI Phase 2 SBIR

Fri, 12/08/2017 - 19:18

Thanks! The grant is under a specific announcement(RFA) with an earmarked funding. I am not sure whether this makes a difference.

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By: writedit

Fri, 12/08/2017 - 18:30

Some R21 applications receive a percentile – I assume it depends on the FOA and review group (a certain number of R21 applications need to be reviewed each cycle to have a sufficient N for the percentile calculation).

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By: writedit

Fri, 12/08/2017 - 18:28

It will mostly depend on the comments in your summary statement and how high a priority your work is for the IC. Your PO probably won’t know much until next January or so (and even then might not be able to say much until later in the FY), but you can ask whether you should resubmit while you wait to see what happens with funding decisions.

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By: Frank

Fri, 12/08/2017 - 14:53

Does R21 still get a percentile? That is interesting. What is the impact score?

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By: Frank

Fri, 12/08/2017 - 14:52

Does R21 still get a percentile? That is interesting.

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By: PI Phase 2 SBIR

Fri, 12/08/2017 - 13:40

I just received a score of 30 for a Phase 2 SBIR grant. The current guideline is 10-30 zone of consideration for FY18. I am still waiting to here from the PO how to interpret this. I am curious what is the likelihood of not getting funded if you are in the consideration zone, especially when you are in the the bubble like me. Thanks!

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By: Toco

Mon, 12/04/2017 - 23:43

I am curious about your case. How a ESI 15 percentile can not be funded. Did the PO told you the main reason. I would like to know that. Thanks

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By: writedit

Mon, 12/04/2017 - 17:33

ICs can make awards under the CR, and it would seem that your score would fall in the range of receiving an award before the FY18 budget is passed (especially since the amount is so low – not a huge financial risk). December is usually the earliest that new awards are issued, and I see that NIDA has issued exactly one new and one competing renewal award thus far (both on Dec 1), so hopefully more will follow, including your F31. For now, you should be patient.

If you have not heard anything by the end of December, and we still do not have an FY18 federal budget, you can get in touch with your PO in January to see if your application will be funded under the CR (he might know better then what applications are in line for processing and whether yours is under consideration).

If the GOP has managed to pass a budget by then, if the NIH budget get its proposed increase or is the same as FY17, you should be fine (and just need to be patient – no need to contact PO); if the budget goes down, you should still be fine but will need to wait a couple of months for any funding action or seeking any reassurance from PO (NIDA won’t get their final appropriation for almost 2 months after the President signs the budget act – it’s not instantly known – and then there will be internal discussions about funding priorities & decisions).

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By: f31app84

Mon, 12/04/2017 - 16:44

Applied to NIDA on an F31 got a 14 and am waiting for a funding determination. Was scored in July and then reviewed September. My PO is being very conservative even though it is in the very low percentiles 4th to be exact. I was told percentiles don’t matter for NIDA. Any word on when we can expect to hear something? I was told early December but our political climatte seems to worsen daily for getting the debt ceiling lifted. I don’t want to keep bothering my PO with these questions when they can’t really tell me anything yet. Now it seems like it could go out until the spring. Any word on whats going on behind the scenes. I am not too experienced with this sort of stuff but am nervous and anxious to see what is going to happen. Any advice would be awesome thank you!

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By: NCIF30

Mon, 12/04/2017 - 11:21

Thanks so much for your prompt response writedit!

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By: writedit

Sun, 12/03/2017 - 22:59

If your PO did not advise that you resubmit, then you will probably be okay, but you may have to wait until the FY18 budget passes – which probably won’t be until next year. Unfortunately, this delay in making awards for Cycle I grant applications has been going on for well over a decade (maybe two by now?), since it has been that long since Congress had a new budget in place by October 1. I would have thought that with the GOP running both houses of Congress that the budget bill would have been done by December, but obviously there are a few distractions in DC, and the impact of the tax cut act, if they manage to agree on and pass a reconciled version, would need to be taken into consideration. So – if your PO did not advise you to resubmit, all you can do is wait.

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By: NCIF30

Sun, 12/03/2017 - 22:10

Dear Writedit, first of all, thanks so much for the wonderful blog. It has been so helpful!
I applied to NCI F30 in April and got scored (21st percentile) and reviewed in July. Right away, I contacted my PO, who told me that the funding range for the previous year was 28th percentile but that I would fall in FY2018 and would have to wait until the budget is passed in Congress. I haven’t heard anything since. I know that Congress is still working on the budget, but I am getting a bit nervous and impatient as it has been almost 8 months since I submitted my application… When should I expect to hear back about the funding decision? Is it normal for April submissions to wait this long to hear back? Can I be optimistic of my chances? Any advice?
Thank you!!

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By: f31app84

Sun, 12/03/2017 - 14:46

Applied to NIDA on an F31 got a 14 and am waiting for a funding determination. Was scored in July and then reviewed September. My PO is being very conservative even though it is in the very low percentiles 4th to be exact. I was told percentiles don’t matter for NIDA. Any word on when we can expect to hear something? I was told early December but our political climatte seems to worsen daily for getting the debt ceiling lifted. I don’t want to keep bothering my PO with these questions when they can’t really tell me anything yet. Now it seems like it could go out until the spring. Any word on whats going on behind the scenes. I am not too experienced with this sort of stuff but am nervous and anxious to see what is going to happen. Any advice would be awesome thank you!

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By: LK

Tue, 11/28/2017 - 21:49

Interesting. My PO indicated to me last week that the interim payline for ESI is 12%. Could you share a link to this twitter post?

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By: writedit

Tue, 11/28/2017 - 17:54

With the federal budget in limbo, no one will know the FY18 appropriation for NIA … if nothing changes in the draft bills, paylines will be the same or better, since funding is slated to increase, but we need to see what Congress does in December and beyond.

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