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By: pjparker

Mon, 10/23/2017 - 19:48

Thank you…But what happens when the contact PI leaves and the multi-PI stays at the institution. How are the funds split up. And who is contact PI- the one that was named contact in the application or the one that stays with the institution.

Categories: NIH-Funding

By: DrSam

Mon, 10/23/2017 - 16:35

Over the last year, I am hearing that reviewers are also being asked to comment on the “premise” of the aims in a proposal. Not sure how different it is from what we had been writing previously under “rationale”, “justification”. Any pointers?

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By: SaG

Mon, 10/23/2017 - 09:49

Technically the grant “belongs” to the institution. They have to agree to relinquish it. Professional courtesy usually lets a PI take grants with them when they leave. I suggest you do not do anything until you get the award. Then worry about transferring the grant to the new school. It is a messy/complex situation but not unusual. FYI, the Total amount of the grant won’t change. So if the indirect costs are higher at the new school the extra money will come out of direct costs. And Vice Versa.

Categories: NIH-Funding

By: Zdravka Medarova

Fri, 10/20/2017 - 16:46

I have a question about Multi-PI grants. I am a Multi-PI together with another investigator from my institution. The other PI is the Contact PI. I just saw that we got a score of 19, 2%. The grant was reviewed this week. The other PI is leaving the institution. What happens to the budget. Can the other PI just take the entire grant with them. Is the grant awarded to the other institution since by the time Council meets, the other PI will have moved. Thank you

Categories: NIH-Funding

By: Optimist

Thu, 10/19/2017 - 13:36

The date listed in eRA Commons is the one that is wrong (indicates a 2016 date!), but the IC’s council did indeed meet last week.
I will check with my PO as you suggest, thank you!

Categories: NIH-Funding

By: writedit

Wed, 10/18/2017 - 23:03

Did you check your IC’s website to be sure the actual Advisory Council meeting date is the date listed in eRA Commons? (not always the case) If the IC website indicates that Council did indeed meet, then it probably is just bureaucracy moving slowly, but you can confirm with your PO and also ask (assuming you are not at NCI) if your award might be made under the CR or if you’ll have to wait for the final federal budget for FY18. Probably the latter, but you can always ask.

Categories: NIH-Funding

By: Optimist

Wed, 10/18/2017 - 18:10

Hello Writedit,
My R01 renewal went to study section in June (8%ile, woo-hoo!). Council met last week, but my status still indicates “Pending Council Review.” Is this just the system being slow?
Thank you.

Categories: NIH-Funding

By: DragonJD

Wed, 10/18/2017 - 07:33

Great. And, yes, will probably ask for a modest increase.

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By: SaG

Wed, 10/18/2017 - 07:04

Ask for what you need but don’t be greedy. Keep in mind that the average NIGMS R01 renewal grant size in DC is ~$250,000. (https://www.nigms.nih.gov/Research/application/Pages/successrateFAQs.aspx) If you are below that you can probably ask for more. If you are above that ask for a very modest increase. If you want to ask for a big bump you should have a strong scientific justification. And just wanting to increase the size of your lab is not a good justification. You probably need to go for a second grant instead.

Categories: NIH-Funding

By: DragonJD

Wed, 10/18/2017 - 07:04

Thanks much, Writedit. I will contact the PO or a specialist from NIH to confirm.

Categories: NIH-Funding

By: writedit

Tue, 10/17/2017 - 18:04

I know NCI and NIAID cap the renewal budget, but I do not believe NIGMS does – but you should certainly check with your PO to be sure. If you are requesting a significant increase in budget due to a major change in scope, you may also want to talk with your PO about whether this should go in as a new vs renewal application.

Categories: NIH-Funding

By: DragonJD

Tue, 10/17/2017 - 15:03

Hello Writedit,
I will submit my R01 competing renewal this Nov. A question comes up for budgeting. If not going for a modular budget, does NIGMS limits the amount requested to a certain percentage above the current year’s award?
Thanks for the helpful inputs. I learned a lot here.

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By: writedit

Mon, 10/16/2017 - 15:51

Not until after the federal budget is signed into law (at least the final payline won’t be known until after that), which probably won’t happen before December. If you need advice before then, ask your PO whether you should resubmit in the meantime.

Categories: NIH-Funding

By: ihatewaiting

Mon, 10/16/2017 - 14:19

Any idea on when a payline for NIA 2018 will come out?

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By: SaG

Mon, 10/16/2017 - 10:45

Your program Officer can answer that question with more confidence than anyone here.

Categories: NIH-Funding

By: Waitinginanticipation

Sat, 10/14/2017 - 00:58

Hi writedit,

I recently received my R21 score for an application submitted to NCI. The impact score was 30; percentile was 12. Should I be optimistic for funding or should I start planning for a resubmission?

Thank you

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By: R21_applicant

Fri, 10/13/2017 - 15:24

Thank you for your response!

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By: writedit

Fri, 10/13/2017 - 15:20

Applications are automatically administratively withdrawn after 2 years – it was not “suddenly” removed to prevent you from being funded. The FY17 payline was for applications submitted in that fiscal year. While it is possible for an IC to go back and fund a prior FY application, they are not required to retrospectively apply paylines to prior FY applications (paylines are calculated only to cover current FY application numbers). In two years, the field will have moved forward (one hopes), so an application written in 2014 would probably no longer be of programmatic interest in 2017, especially if you had not submitted updated applications in the meantime for the same science.

Categories: NIH-Funding

By: R21_applicant

Fri, 10/13/2017 - 13:11

Thank you for having this blog — it gives a lot of great information!
I have the following question:
I have an R21 application which received a percentile of 19 in 2015. In 2015 this was not even close to the cut-off around 11 (NIA). The application has been administratively withdrawn by the funding agency beginning of July 2017. The pay-line has now been raised to 19 at NIA. I assume that my application will not be considered since it has been administratively removed. Did this happen to anybody that suddenly your application falls within the pay-line, but it has been administratively removed? Is there any chance that it will be re-considered for funding? Thank you for any response!

Categories: NIH-Funding